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Roofish
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 Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:07 am • # 1 |
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:06 pm • # 2 |
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Found it works good with combo wrenches and 1/4 inch nylon braid. Very poor results with fishing apps but nothing here bites on combo wrenches and I got no poles for the braid.
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Panfisher1
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:45 pm • # 3 |
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That's funny blufloyd .. Hey Roofish get with program man, Davy knot covered in a Thread last week ....we love the knot .....strong, easy to tie, Read the thread got alot of pics and good opinions ... Paul 
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Panfisher1
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:50 pm • # 4 |
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It's under TFO-BVK-0 page 6 good stuff ....
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blufloyd
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:16 pm • # 5 |
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In game conditions I can't get good results. I think somewhere on web this is covered.
Disclaimer....blu can't really tie knots worth a hoot no matter name of them.
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Panfisher1
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:35 pm • # 6 |
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Blufloyd ... Cant understand why u can't Get a good tight knot ...it's Simplist knot to tie I've ever Used ...go get some heavy mono And practice we use it all the time Where r u having a problem with it Maybe I can be of assistance ...... Paul  
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CBarclay
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:08 pm • # 7 |
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I wile back I did some not very scientific tests between several tippet materials and a few knots. I tried the Davy Knot, the Orvis Knot and a figure 8 type of knot that Cross Creek came up with. Order of strength was Cross Creek knot, Orvis then Davy. With first and second place significantly stronger than the Davy which I came to not trust at all. The CC knot seems to have nearly 100% strength. That said, a good knot is one you tie well. Here's a diagram of he CC knot: 
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Panfisher1
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:21 pm • # 8 |
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U guys complicate my life ..CC's knot is very similar to the Davy knot Does the tag end go under the loop or over at the end  Paul
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Roofish
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:28 pm • # 9 |
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Hahaha you guys ever tried the "Don Knotts" hahaha
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CBarclay
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:29 pm • # 10 |
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Paul, it's just because I can't fish all the time, so I tinker!
The tag end goes under the standing end, then around and under itself, then around and through the middle of the loop. Make sense?
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Panfisher1
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:40 am • # 11 |
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Yes I can tell that about you ...it makes sense I'll try
It in the am on a piece of mono ..the illustration is similar to the Ovis knot
.............I never had the Davy knot
Fail on me while fishing ...I was always leary of it because of its simplicity..but it does the job ....Ill tell ya Weirder way a friend of mine ties it ..starts off with a simple loop in the tag end of the line, pulls the loop tight then proceeds to tie the davy knot says impossible for the knot to come apart, only way it would fail if the line breaks, knot can't come apart ......Paul
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blufloyd
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:01 am • # 12 |
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Well tried it on 6 lb stren when it came up before. Lost fly almost 50% of time to knot failure. Good old clinch that I don't tie right either loss rate was less than 5%.
I might give it a spin on crappie wacking today with jigs but.....
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Cowpokey
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:31 am • # 13 |
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CBarclay wrote: I wile back I did some not very scientific tests between several tippet materials and a few knots. I tried the Davy Knot, the Orvis Knot and a figure 8 type of knot that Cross Creek came up with. Order of strength was Cross Creek knot, Orvis then Davy. With first and second place significantly stronger than the Davy which I came to not trust at all. The CC knot seems to have nearly 100% strength. That said, a good knot is one you tie well. Here's a diagram of he CC knot: CBarclay, maybe I'm looking at the drawing wrong, but I'm confused what part is "over" and what part is "under"? Can you use a piece of rope, tie it (with a something in place of the hook eye) and post a picture?
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Joe C
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:36 am • # 14 |
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CBarclay wrote: Paul, it's just because I can't fish all the time, so I tinker!
The tag end goes under the standing end, then around and under itself, then around and through the middle of the loop. Make sense? Over, under, around and through. Sounds like a commercial tune All I know is I have used the Davy knot this year and have landed all my fish (I would say a fair amount) on it without ever loosing a fly at the knot. Lost some where the tippet showed significant fraying but never at the knot. It is simple and easy to tie so I'm sticking to it. I also have five Davy knots in my rig; leader to leader ring, 20" tippet to anchor fly (davy knot at both ends), 6" dropper off ring to dropper fly (Davy knot at both ends). If anyone has a chance to lose a fly on a bad knot then it's got to be me. I am also using 4X to the ring and 5,6 or 7X off the ring based on water conditions. That's my two cents for waht it's worth 
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CBarclay
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:01 am • # 15 |
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blufloyd wrote: Well tried it on 6 lb stren when it came up before. Lost fly almost 50% of time to knot failure. Good old clinch that I don't tie right either loss rate was less than 5%.
I might give it a spin on crappie wacking today with jigs but..... I was the same way. Just a thought, anyone using fluorocarbon with the Davy knot? Cowpokey wrote: CBarclay wrote: I wile back I did some not very scientific tests between several tippet materials and a few knots. I tried the Davy Knot, the Orvis Knot and a figure 8 type of knot that Cross Creek came up with. Order of strength was Cross Creek knot, Orvis then Davy. With first and second place significantly stronger than the Davy which I came to not trust at all. The CC knot seems to have nearly 100% strength. That said, a good knot is one you tie well. Here's a diagram of he CC knot: CBarclay, maybe I'm looking at the drawing wrong, but I'm confused what part is "over" and what part is "under"? Can you use a piece of rope, tie it (with a something in place of the hook eye) and post a picture? I'll see if I can take a few pics to clarify...
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:06 am • # 16 |
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Joe C
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:53 am • # 17 |
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[quote="CBarclay I was the same way. Just a thought, anyone using fluorocarbon with the Davy knot?
All I use is fluorocarbon for all my fishing, so yes all my Davy knots are tied using fluorocarbon.
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Panfisher1
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:41 pm • # 18 |
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Sooooo, basically you're taking the tag end at the completion and putting
It through the created figure eight loop, and does this Make a stronger knot,
That is my Question? Getting complicated JoeC ... Not convinced to change
From reliable an ole Davy knot .....
Paul
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CBarclay
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:45 pm • # 19 |
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Panfisher1 wrote: Sooooo, basically you're taking the tag end at the completion and putting
It through the created figure eight loop, and does this Make a stronger knot,
That is my Question? Getting complicated JoeC ... Not convinced to change
From reliable an ole Davy knot .....
Paul Fine by me! I need every advantage I can get to keep up with you guys!  Joe's argument's pretty solid though. Maybe I'll revisit the Davy Knot after all.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:57 pm • # 20 |
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Thanks. That's a figure 8, which looks like as a "slip knot". Not doubting it's strength, but the Davy Knot cinches up smaller. I broke my tippet a couple inches above a Davy knot over the weekend....from snagging my popper on weed during the back cast. Maybe the tippet was weakened where it broke, but I couldn't see any kind of kink or abrasion in that spot.
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