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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:17 pm • # 1 
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Made a quick stop on the way home from work today to fish a really unique little creek a buddy and I have been alternating days on recently. The goal today was to pick up a couple of bass to deliver to the UT Natural History Collection in Austin. Their last fish from this particular body of water came in the 1880s during a US-Mexico Boundary Commission survey ... they think.

Anyway, it's a tossup whether these are spotted bass (M. punctulatis) or Guadalupe bass (M. treculii) ... I'm guessing I have one of each here, but won't know until the experts take a look. Neither are "supposed" to be there, but here are a lot of them, whatever they are.

Echo Carbon XL 2 wt and the mouse, of course (and yes, I did try half a dozen other patterns before I gave up and went back to my standby, and promptly caught two fish).

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:08 am • # 2 
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Wow! I'm amazed at the size of the caudal fin on that first bass. Is that typical?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:32 am • # 3 
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Wow! I'm amazed at the size of the caudal fin on that first bass. Is that typical?


Ya know, I don't know. Dropping both specimens off at the University of Texas Ichthyology collection today. I'll ask.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:58 am • # 4 
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Those are beautiful pics of the scenery!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:00 pm • # 5 
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Thanks, Cliff!

So, according to the fish biologists at UT, the top picture (fish facing left) is a largemouth, and the bottom picture is a spotted bass.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:56 pm • # 6 
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Now, if I ever catch a spotted bass I'll be able to identify it. Thanks for the post.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:58 pm • # 7 
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The tailfin on the top fish looks huge for the size of the fish. You took some nice looking photos. Thanks for sharing


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:03 am • # 8 
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Pretty cool Aaron. So what are they gonna do with them? Catalog the DNA samples of the specimen and location,etc?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:03 am • # 9 
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Cool report!

I haven't tried that mouse yet. Remind me to put that in the box...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:05 pm • # 10 
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Pretty cool Aaron. So what are they gonna do with them? Catalog the DNA samples of the specimen and location,etc?


Randy, they took tissue samples for DNA -- the LMB actually had a bit of a tooth patch, so has some sort of introgression from spotted or Guadalupe bass -- and are cataloguing the specimens. They didn't have anything from that particular creek since 1857 and were very interested. Cool place and nice folks with a lot of knowledge. Worth a visit if you get a chance -- Pickle Research Campus at Braker/Burnet.

I didn't get an answer on the caudal fin, and they didn't remark on it.

Strummer ... the Mouse is so much fun! Fish it, man!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:06 pm • # 11 
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Aaron,
You catch so many bass so consistently on that mouse pattern; are you sure you aren't dipping it in Berkley PowerBait fish attractant? :lol

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:26 am • # 12 
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Aaron,
You catch so many bass so consistently on that mouse pattern; are you sure you aren't dipping it in Berkley PowerBait fish attractant? :lol

Larry


Are we not supposed to do that?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:27 pm • # 13 
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Nice report. Need to tie up some of your mice. Lost the one from the swap to a tree fish.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:15 pm • # 14 
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Now, if I ever catch a spotted bass I'll be able to identify it. Thanks for the post.


We don't have spotted bass where I live. Is it called a spotted bass because of the spots near the belly? Or am I wrong?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:09 pm • # 15 
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JimRed wrote:
Now, if I ever catch a spotted bass I'll be able to identify it. Thanks for the post.


We don't have spotted bass where I live. Is it called a spotted bass because of the spots near the belly? Or am I wrong?


Yes, precisely. Though a lot of folks assume it's called that because of the dorsal pattern (which a lot of bass get depending on habitat).


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