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flyflingerandy1
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:11 am • # 1 |
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Ok, who all has and likes a 2wt Intermediate line? I know Wulff makes a TT2I that I am looking at picking up.
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mjcoussens
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:27 am • # 2 |
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What about one of Zhu's silk lines? I've not tried them myself, but know they come in a DT2. Skip the mucilin and it should sink just about right.
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jkurtz7
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:50 am • # 3 |
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Why not just get a furled flourocarbon leader from Brad, and use flouro tippet. I am using that setup on my 3wts and it sinks quick. It's has enough mass to pull the tip of the fly line down a bit too.
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flyflingerandy1
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:11 am • # 4 |
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Hmm...that may work. I will have to look into that. Thanks J.
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jkurtz7
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:51 am • # 5 |
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flyflingerandy1 wrote: Hmm...that may work. I will have to look into that. Thanks J. It's a much cheaper option than buying a sinking line that you aren't going to use all the time. This set up works well in slow moving creeks and still water. J.
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Zenkoanhead
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:59 am • # 6 |
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A thread furled leader can also be treated with some of those sinking agents. You have to put Mucilin on them to have them float. Don
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Zenkoanhead
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:01 am • # 7 |
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I just remembered. There is a lady who furls leaders using some sinking materials. Don't remember her name though. Don
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keebranch
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:04 am • # 8 |
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I wonder if Brad, Robin, Dane or one of own own would like to try this. It would be a great experiment.
Les
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Zenkoanhead
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:10 am • # 9 |
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I may have read about it on Texas Flyfishers. Don
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flyflingerandy1
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:27 am • # 10 |
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What is a sinking agent that you use Don? I know of red tin mucilin for floating, how about the sinking?
Also, do you treat the thread leaders with Tru oil first, then mucilin or the sinkent?
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jkurtz7
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:52 am • # 11 |
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I would just get a flouro leader and forget about treatments. A properly designed furled leader for UL is nothing more than an extension of your line, and a flouro leader is in effect a sink tip.
J.
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flyflingerandy1
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:08 pm • # 12 |
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J, The reason I am after a sinking line or furled leader is because with a sinking line, you use a VERY short leader/tippet, down under 4'. With a furled leader, that would have to be a 2' leader and 2' tippet, whereas with a thread leader, treat the back half with mucilin to float, the front half with sinkent, and add normal tippet. then, the furled section acts as a strike indicator as well.
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Zenkoanhead
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:30 pm • # 13 |
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You can put mucilin on Flouro too. Andy, I don't usually use sinkants. Gink comes to mind. You could treat the leader with Tru-oil either way. It would sink best if treated only with Gink. Don
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jkurtz7
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:33 pm • # 14 |
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flyflingerandy1 wrote: J, The reason I am after a sinking line or furled leader is because with a sinking line, you use a VERY short leader/tippet, down under 4'. With a furled leader, that would have to be a 2' leader and 2' tippet, whereas with a thread leader, treat the back half with mucilin to float, the front half with sinkent, and add normal tippet. then, the furled section acts as a strike indicator as well. Do what ever you want, just giving you options. J.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:33 pm • # 15 |
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The last time I was at Bass Pro I picked up a sink tip system,Orvis makes it,It is for 3to 5 wt rods but should work fine on a 2wt.It has 2 sections of sinking line 4ft. long.Each has a different sink rate.The line has loops at both ends.I haven't tried it yet the streams around here are way to low.But it may be something to think about. At a cost of $ 12.00 Worth a shot Dennis
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jkurtz7
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:37 pm • # 16 |
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lv2fish wrote: The last time I was at Bass Pro I picked up a sink tip system,Orvis makes it,It is for 3to 5 wt rods but should work fine on a 2wt.It has 2 sections of sinking line 4ft. long.Each has a different sink rate.The line has loops at both ends.I haven't tried it yet the streams around here are way to low.But it may be something to think about. At a cost of $ 12.00 Worth a shot Dennis I have that same system, and like it, but it has it's limitations. It hinges on a 3wt line, and I wouldn't even attempt to use it on a 2wt line. J.
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flyflingerandy1
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:49 pm • # 17 |
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Those types of tips hinge badly and I wouldn't dare use it.
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Zenkoanhead
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:52 pm • # 18 |
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You didn't mention the application, but have you considered Czech nymping? I use a 12" furled leader to which you loop a tippet at 90 degrees. With a bead nymph, it will hand close to vertical in slow water. Don
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flyflingerandy1
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:04 pm • # 19 |
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Hmm...I hadn't thought of that.
J, I wasn't being snarky, just explaining my thoughts on the things. I would essentially be fishing from shore in lakes and ponds, as well as slow moving streams.
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flyfishing4goldentrout
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:17 pm • # 20 |
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I FISH my 1-2wt Orvis one weights with a 4ft sinking leader and a 3ft 1 1/2 or 2 pound tippet, both work well with me, whats your leader made of, I use only hand made furrled tapered leaders, the woman that makes them uses Celvar thread to weight them, mine have a loop for attachement to the fly line and a tight small ring for tippet attachement. Richard
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