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 Post subject: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:09 pm • # 1 
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i know this has been covered a million times with the cheap bait holder hooks but i was going to order some Wilson spiders today and i thought i could whip these spiders up myself ...... i took the el cheapo walmart baitholder hooks that they use for the jitter bee and tied up some spiders they look great and look a lot like the wilson spider ...i know not the normal hook for ty'n up sponge spiders but they do seem like they are going to work out fine !! i will post a few pic's tom.


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:52 pm • # 2 
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cheap hooks are the way to go for gills and such- too many obstacles to snag...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:14 pm • # 3 
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The almost scud hook profile really shines on spiders I think. I like light wire better but price driven manufacturing and low cost suppliering wins every time.


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:18 pm • # 4 
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eagle claw at basspro. 100 hooks for $9.99. various sizes. great deal imho.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:53 pm • # 5 
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Yeah............My favorite hooks are made by DAIICHI, but if you look in my hookbox, you will find Mustad / Tiemco / EagleClaw....and anything else that was on sale at Wally-World..(fish don't know the difference)........Don in SC


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:05 am • # 6 
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you can buy the aberdeen hooks at Captain hook for about $3 a hundred; theyre light and you can bend them back several times before they break; great for brim-p-


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:28 pm • # 7 
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Just bought som bronze Aberdeen hooks size 6 and 4 to make some micro poppers. Think I paid $1.26 at walmart for 50 each. Think I'm going to try and put a bend in them to keep the cork from rotating. Any ideas on the best way to do it?


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:53 pm • # 8 
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a few wilson spider knock offs tied on the eagle claw # 10 080-10


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:18 pm • # 9 
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tinknocker1 wrote:
a few wilson spider knock offs tied on the eagle claw # 10 080-10


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tinknocker, any chance you could do a step by step on those spiders? They look so clean and well done, I'd love to see how you cut the foam at least!


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:26 pm • # 10 
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Same here. It looks great and simple with the steps. Is their a body material on the hook?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:43 pm • # 11 
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Chris i can do a step by step but my camera is not the greatest not sure how the pic's would turn out ..

thats a Chernobyl-Style Foam Body Cutters (Tapered-End) from river road creations size med. i have a small .med and large .. pretty easy to tye i use red round legs take a black marker and bar the legs just use some med. chen to make up the under body and go back where the hook starts to bend and tye in the point of the foam then wrap the chen. up close to the eye of the hook then bring your thread back from the eye of the hook a bit strech the foam and tye then add the legs pretty muck like you would a gartside gurgler just don't bring the foam back over ..you can adjust the size of the body by how much tention you put on the foam when you stretch it ..fat butt spider less tention skinny butt more tention ..


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:51 pm • # 12 
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Joe C wrote:
Same here. It looks great and simple with the steps. Is their a body material on the hook?


just med. black chenille Joe you can use any color though...


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:51 pm • # 13 
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Nice! Almost looks like a mini Gurgler minus the tails as I tie them.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:06 pm • # 14 
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Phish wrote:
Nice! Almost looks like a mini Gurgler minus the tails as I tie them.


thats pretty much all it is Phish ..
i added to the step by step


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:15 pm • # 15 
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I use the Mustad 3366 hooks the come in sizes down to a 12 thats the only problem if you tie small flies, they cost 3.95 - 4-95 per 100 depends on where you buy them.


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:12 pm • # 16 
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J. Stockard's "store brand" are pretty reasonable, $9.95/100 and they're regular tying hooks.


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:39 pm • # 17 
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Wish I could find barbless hooks that cheap >: I pay that much and more for 25.


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:27 pm • # 18 
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It's silly, it takes an extra step in the process to barb a hook...you'd think leaving that step out would be cheaper.


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:29 pm • # 19 
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Barkr; I lay down a couple of layers of thread on the shank, dab on some superglue at the tie in point on the little sponge spiders; the superglue will keep the bodies from turning on you; just a dab in the right spots. I use the krazy glue with the brush applicator to control the amount-p-


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 Post subject: Re: cheap hooks
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:47 pm • # 20 
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Cowpokey wrote:
It's silly, it takes an extra step in the process to barb a hook...you'd think leaving that step out would be cheaper.

There is a good article about this in the latest Fly Tyer issue. It says putting the barb on the hook is actually the first step of manufacturing them, and in order to make barbless hooks they had to come up with a new manufacturing process. There is also a high number of rejects, 30-60% can be tossed for quality control. All that drives the cost up. I like Tiemco hooks myself, barbed ones that I press down before I tie the fly.


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